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Originally Posted by Rodzilla
definitely. Refining what is already out there should still make for a pretty innovative formula though. When you get specific amounts of nootropics correct, it can be great. Too much and you can feel pretty shitty..I remember some reports from the earliest version of ultima where it was simply too much for some people.
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I took one scoop of ultima v2 preworkout and crashed halfway through lifting and slept 14 hours.